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Nelson, the administrator over on Michael Bay's
Shoot for the Edit website,
has posted some new information on the upcoming
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D
Blu-Ray Edition as well as revealing the initial details of a 7-disc blu-ray box set that will contain all three of the live action films.
The details he announced regarding the 3D Blu-Ray edition of Transformers: Dark of
the Moon was that it will be a four-disc set, released on the 31st January 2012 with the disc breakdown being:
Disc 1 - Transformers: DOTM Blu-ray feature film
Disc 2 - Behind the Scenes (the extra that have been missing for every release so far)
Disc 3 - Transformers: DOTM 3D Blu-ray edition
Disc 4 - Transformers: DOTM DVD / Digital Copy
With regards to the 7-disc set, Nelson just gave the release date as Jan 31st, said it would contain all three films (Transformers, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Transformers: Dark of the Moon) and that he will be announcing further details on Boxing day, so December 26th 2011.
In a strange turn of events, which will no doubt turn out not to be true, Michael Bay's message board administrator Nelson posted the following comment on on ShootForTheEdit.com when asked about who the red robot in Transformers: Dark of the Moon was following on from a post by him that it was not Mirage.
I have embolden Nelson's posts below to help distinguish them from the questions that prompted the answers.
"All I will say is that he speaks with an Italian accent and is named after a famous Italian."
This was followed by the posts
"That doesn't mean s**t. In the comic and novels the twins are still in it." in response to a post by Jason Gould where Jason posted "Come on guys it's Mirage, his name is already in the toys, books, and Novelization.". Nelson then went on to quote Plague1980 wh posted "Are
we talking about two different red robots here? In the children's books
besides Sentinel, the only other red Autobot is the Ferrari which we
all know is Mirage. Now if you are talking about another bot that we
dont know about and trying to hint at it, the first famous Italian name
that comes to mind is "COSIMO" as in Cosmos lol" following up with the response "Don't act dumb. You know I'm talking about the red Ferrari."
This mean that Paramount must have had to hired a new voice actor to record all of Mirage's lines and also have re-recorded any dialogue that names the character, though going by the first two movies this is also feasible. It must have happened fairly recently as not only does the novelisation of the film refers to the character as Mirage but so does the toys and the prequel video game by Activision in which he speaks with an Arabian-based accent. All of the other characters within the video game are voiced by the same voice actors as the Dark of the Moon movie.
We will keep you up-to-date on this story as it develops
Update:
When we posed the following over on ShootForTheEdit "This is very interesting . I know you won't want to give out the new
name for the character but I was wondering when this change took place.", Nelson simply replied with "In the movie script, he was never called Mirage to begin with.".
I have since replied to clarify my question and I will let you all know if Nelson replies to that.
Update 2:
Nevermore complied a great lists of quotes that Nelson posted on TFW2005.com over on the ShootForTheEdit thread linked to that the start of this article that go some way to explain what went down with the character.
"Think about it.Mattel owns the toy merchandising rights to Ferrari. Why would Ferrari allow one of their flagship car to be named after a
Hasbro property name (Mirage) in one of the biggest movies this
year––thus undermining Mattel and possibly creating a huge clusterhug? And before you say "Well the toy is not named Mirage," look again, that's no Ferrari.
BTW, I've been known in extremely rare cases to be wrong."
"In all the treatments and scripts all the way up to the post
production of the DOTM movie, the Ferrari was never referred to as
Mirage. He was referred to by other names such as Rush & Enzo, but
never as Mirage.Capisce?"
"
The point is the Ferrari in the film can't be named after any Hasbro TF name. Period.
1.- Because the movie is not a Hasbro property per se.
2.- The terms of use stated that Ferrari was going to have approval of name, voice, etc."
So, as Nevermore himself put it over on ShootForTheEdit, Dark of the Moon is "a movie based on Hasbro's Transformers property includes a
character as a Transformer who must not be named after one of Hasbro's
Transformers characters. I guess that shows how little say Hasbro has in
these movies."
Sources of the quotes:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers...tml#post6103423
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers...tml#post6103518
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers...tml#post6103534
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers...tml#post6103650
In a response to a comment regarding Michael Bay not being involved with the teaser trailer for Transformers Dark of the Moon over on ShootForTheEdit.com, forum administrator Nelson posted the following reply:
"Wrong. He said initially he didn't have
anything to do with it and then later became totally involved. Who do
you think shot those NASA, astronauts walking on the moon, and Ark
scenes?".Â
Now is Nelson simply teasing fans or is this the reveal that the spaceship seen in the trailer is actually The Ark?Â
Nelson, admin of Michael Bay's ShootfortheEdit.com, has posted a picture of
the Mercedes E550 on his
Flickr account. Nelson, who recently confirmed that the vehicle would not be Jolt, lists the car as the character "Q". Now he does this as a quote meaning it will not be the actual name of the character, but this could also be a reference to Q from James Bond which was short for quartermaster, so could this character be a quartermaster himself? Time will tell
Nelson has posted on Shoot for the Edit once again with another update on Transformers 3
Nelson here...
I arrived at the Chicago Michigan Ave. set on Friday, July 16th. I was
greeted by Mike Case (Bay's assistant) and was taken to Bay's monitor
tent which was in the middle of a war zone. Michael greeted and
proceeded to ask some things about the site. He then took out his iPad
and showed me animatics of some sequences. Holy moly. This movie is
going to be huge!!! In my opinion, more epic than TF2 with the first
time amazement of TF1. I wish I could tell you what I saw on the
animatics, but I can't.
Bay was filming a scene with Shia (Sam) & Rosie (Carly) in which
they were hiding within a wrecked and flipped car. At around that time
the temperature hit 102 degrees (including humidity index). It was so
hot that Shia was sweating through his leather jacket and as was Rosie.
Back to the scene... apparently the scene is one in which a Decepticon
is hunting for them. As Bay filmed this, a cue from the score was played
to add to the suspense.
As the crew broke for lunch, I met Lester Speight (Coltrane on Gears of
War) and went on to lunch with him. He was very nice and delightful.
Later, I got to meet the rest of the cast: Shia, Rosie, Tyrese, and
Josh.
I had the pleasure of talking to Shia for for about 30 minutes and with
Tyrese and Josh for another 30 minutes. All these guys have an
impressionable work ethic, are fun to talk to and down-to-earth people.
And that goes for the rest of the crew. I many many nice and
professional people that are working their hardest to make this movie
successful and entertaining.
As the day came about, Bay, Shia, Tyrese & Josh all came to meet
than fans that had been waiting since 7am to catch a glimpse down the
street. They also were interviewed by CBS 2 TV in which Bay praised the
city of Chicago.
As always, Bay left the best for last. Explosions and gunfire!!
That's it for now. I will post a video of some of the activities later.
Enjoy."
Previously it was believed the name Rush was that of the Ferrari, but in fact it was the name of the street in which it was parked
Nelson, the admin of Michael Bay's website and message board, has posted the following update regarding the DVD and Blu-Ray released of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen that will contain the extra footage shown at the Imax.
"I spoke to Paramount today and here's the lowdown on the Imax TF2 release:
Walmart will have exclusive rights on selling the ROFT (w/ Imax) on DVD and Blu-ray."
There is no word on how this will affect non-US releases of the film
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